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Recreation on streets may be outlawed
by Tamara Ward
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A law against shooting baskets, hitting pucks, kicking goals and more on public streets soon may be in place. At its July 20 meeting, the Holly Springs Town Council encouraged the town attorney to draft an ordinance restricting recreation on roads. The council is to discuss the ordinance at its next meeting.

The issue of recreation on streets arose after a local resident requested a ban or regulations on portable basketball hoops set up on streets. She said the hoops were problematic, especially on cul-de-sacs, as the hoops drew children into the street.

Councilwoman Linda Hunt Williams said the resident’s complaint was not the first. “I think it’s time to see what other municipalities are doing and go to the next step,” she said.

The town attorney said Garner has a law against unlawful recreation devices; parents can be fined for being accomplices. He said Holly Springs is working on establishing a way to collect town citations in the $25 range.

Councilmen James Cobb and Tim Sack suggested writing the ordinance to include sports in addition to basketball.

“I think the (police) chief is anxious to support this,” said Mayor Dick Sears.

In other parks news at the meeting, the council entered into a joint use agreement for the use and maintenance of facilities at Holly Grove Middle School.

As part of the agreement, the town is to invest in improvements at the school, including a concessions building, a lighting and sound system, and a scoreboard for the multi-purpose field, as well as a lighting and sound system, irrigation system, scoreboard, and dugout and scorer’s canopies for the softball field.

The town also will maintain these facilities. In turn, the town can jointly use the softball field, multipurpose field and track, parking areas and drive accesses with the school.

“Joint use agreements with the middle school and, quite frankly, with all of our schools, allow us to work as a team,” Sears said after the meeting. “We do some of the upkeep and take care of the fields. … We can use that facility on site, which I think our citizens really appreciate.”

In other meeting business, the council approved spending $70,000 to update to the town’s comprehensive transportation plan. The new transportation plan will address a variety of transportation issues, including planning for multiple modes of transportation, regional and neighborhood traffic.

Surrounding municipalities, regulatory agencies and state agencies will be involved in forming the plan.

Also, public meetings will be held and an advisory committee will be formed.

“We’ve been needing and wanting to do this for several years,” said Kenrda Parrish, senior engineer with the town.

The plan is to be completed in about eight months.

The council voted to develop a bicycle transportation plan, which will include a ranking of proposed bicycle improvement projects.

“This lays them all out … and ranks them, so as funds become available you can start moving down your priority list,” Parrish said.

The cost for the plan is $40,000, which is to be funded partially by the state Department of Transportation. The town is to pay $12,000.

The council also approved a municipal agreement with the state Department of Transportation for $65,000 for traffic signal installation at the Avent Ferry Rd. and Piney Grove Wilbon Rd. intersection.

Parrish said the town has petitioned the state for a signal at that intersection for years.

“Every year they do counts and say it’s not warranted,” Parrish said. “This year it is.” Parrish said the signal should be operational by October.

As part of the consent agenda, the council adopted an ordinance establishing a 25 mph speed limit on a portion of Main St. The council also adopted a $235,000 budget amendment to appropriate 911 revenues for the purchase of radio consoles and entered into a $5,500 contract for pump station permitting at the business park.

The town also entered into an agreement with Wake County for the town to provide fire protection services to areas of the town and outside the town in return for receiving fire taxes collected by Wake County. The agreement also includes a mutual aid services agreement in which the town agrees to assist other departments in other service areas as needed.

During the public comment period, an Apex resident representing Soroptimist International spoke to the council about human trafficking, describing it as slavery involving sex or labor. She said, in North Carolina, 15 cases were added by Legal Aid of NC in the past nine months.

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kt2010
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August 07, 2010
This is UNBELIEVABLE! I live in Holly Springs and love this town, but the day this passes will be the day I move. Playing in the street is a freedom that all Americans enjoy and something that should never be taken away from our children. Where else will they ride their bikes? I mean really, this is America and we stand for FREEDOM! What is the government trying to do???

Maybe the HSPD should spend more time policing the speeders in our neighborhoods instead of trying to make money off something this ridiculous!
concernedcitizen741776
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August 03, 2010
Looks like it's got more to do with giving the HSPD another way to raise revenue than with public safety. Complete BS.
s_long
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August 02, 2010
The July 20th Town Council meeting is shown three times a day on the Holly Springs town channel 11. The citizen's statements and the mayor and the council's discussion are all there for our own viewing.
edgar709
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August 02, 2010
I also believe town council is wasting their time even thinking about this matter. I always remember fondly playing in the street while growing up. It was mostly after school and finished once daylight ended. Our parents also kept a close eye on us (that's if they weren't playing with us.) I now live on a cul de sac and what I know is that in reality, the only folks that drive up and down our street are people that reside in it. BTW, does town council know that 82% of kids do not do PE in school, 30% played video games for 3 hrs on an average school day...for the first time in American history, our children’s life expectancy may be shorter than ours by 10 - 20 yrs?

In most residential neighborhoods, the speed limit is 20 miles per hours. If folks followed the speed limit, children in our streets would have enough time to get out of the street so that cars can go by. And as far as our town's finest ever enforcing such law, they should really focus more of their time fighting crime or ticketing folks that go over the speed limit in our neighborhoods.

Here are some interesting links:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7209499

http://harvardscience.harvard.edu/medicine-health/articles/explosion-child-obesity-predicted-shorten-us-life-expectancy

http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMsr043743#article

http://www.heart.org/HEARTORG/GettingHealthy/Overweight-in-Children_UCM_304054_Article.jsp
Gigi2004
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August 02, 2010
I don't get you people why do you want your children playing the streets? Afterall everyone has a backyard, front yard, several parks in town and most subdivisions have playground areas. If you want a basketball hoop why don't you just put one at the top your driveway and let your kids shoot there? As for speeders I don't think so. I roll into my neighborhood but 9 times out of 10 there are kids who don't move, kids who dart out, kids who hit the cars with the balls and you know what nobody is watching them, not a parent in sight. I don't get you people. You teach your children to stay away from the stove because it's dangerous, you teach your kids not to go near a gun, why because it's dangerous. But, 5,000 pounds of metal coming at you at 20 miles an hour isn't? Obesity how about taking the kids up to the park which is beautiful, maybe a little walk will work off some pounds you know what you won't do it. It's easier to just let the kids play in the street so the parents don't have to get up off their behinds, it's not convenient. So please people stop with the running with gangs if they can't have a basketball hoop in the streets and the obesity nonsense, be honest it's easier to just have the kids running around in the streets. BTW, if God forbid one of your children got hurt you would be the first ones to sue.
u4ickx6m
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August 01, 2010
What happened to our Councilmembers?? Are they against exercise or have they forgotten the Mayor's mantra: "if it's good for the kids it's good for Holly Springs"? And two Councilmen want to make the ban more restrictive by including sports other than basketball. You only get what you vote for.
u4ickx6m
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August 01, 2010
This is by far the most ridiculous contemplation this Council is considering by far. When most of us are grappling with the obesity issue, we need to get everyone moving our bodies more, especially our youth, and now our elected officials want to essentially ban exercise. Remember--you only get what you vote for.
edgeroute
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August 01, 2010
Decisions like these by local Government are a good indication as to the constituency politicians are aligned with. Perhaps it's time for a new town council and Mayor. Our Government should represent us as the people, and last time I checked, Holly Springs was full of families with children!
s_long
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July 31, 2010
UNBELIEVABLE!! I'm in shock that the Mayor and the Town Council would ALL be in favor of such a ridiculous law! It's wrong for so many reasons! My image of the Mayor and each Town Council member has been drastically changed by their preference for such an UNfamily-friendly law! Their demographics are really showing!!!
jbishop61
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July 30, 2010
I agree with what others have commented on. Kids do need to be outside playing more. What is going to be next, outlawing kids riding their bicycles? Councilmen I ask that you don't even consider this ridiculous law. Thank you!
cecilianinnc
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July 30, 2010
This is one of those ordinances that you will one day be reading about dumblaws.com. This is not something that the councilmen should be wasting their time giving attention too, let alone paying a lawyer to draft up an ordinance. I can't even comprehend how someone would see this as an issue, let alone on a cul-de-sac, where there isn't even through traffic. Last time I checked, children will move for cars. A momentary inconvenience waiting for them to move their net will not kill you. Just because you get antsy driving through a crowd of kids (crowd being used very loosely here) doesn't mean that you need to force them all inside to watch TV and play video games. It's rather counterproductive that, while most places are trying to take correct childhood diets and encourage exercise, the Town of Holly Springs will be fining outdoor recreation.

In summation... ridiculous... move on, there are more important issues out there, even in the tiny town of Holly Springs.
jknowlton
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July 30, 2010
I, too, believe that only people who would have a problem with kids playing in the street are driving too fast. Having the kids play in the street was one of the top reasons we bought our house on a cul-de-sac to begin with. I also know many adults that enjoy playing basketball or kickball in these areas. I can understand if they want to put a curfew on street play-time, it can be dangerous in the dark, but why outlaw it altogether? This would damage the sense of community in many neighborhoods.
mcampbell816
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July 30, 2010
I would like to personally thank the town council for spending their time address tiny issues such as this. As a citizen of Holly Springs I am much less concerned with real problems the community is faced with. Seriously??? What a complete waste of time. One of the very things that lured me to HS is how friendly the neighborhoods are. I love sitting on our front porch in the evenings and watching our cul-de-sac kids play with one another. How about the Council focus on the Town's vision and real problems. Or maybe they can change the Town motto to "Welcome to Holly Springs...promoting fat kids and socially awkward neighborhoods since 2010".
jojof40
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July 29, 2010
Are you serious? Keeping kids from playing backetball and hockey in the street is the most pressing issue in Holly Springs? I think it's absolutely ridiculous that town councilmen are wasting their time talking about keeping kids from socializing and exercising in front of their homes. My children greatly enjoy playing all kinds of games on the street in our cul-de-sac and no one is in any danger. Apparently the concerned citizen doesn't understand that playing games in the street is supposed to draw children out. I'm wondering how fast is our concerned citizen driving down on a cul-de-sac anyway??
igioman
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July 29, 2010
I feel this is a complete waste of time. This ordnance, if adopted, does nothing more than encourage our children to stay inside and play more video games and become more unhealthy than some may already be. I happen to live on a culdesac, I have NO problem whatsoever, with children playing in the street. In fact, I relish the idea of seeing and hearing children in my community doing outdoor activities, it shows a vitality that is lacking in many other communities. When most of us were growing up we played outside in the street, in backyards, all over in fact. It was never a problem then, and I feel it is not a problem now. Perhaps the few residents that have complained about outside child's play, are speeding through the streets and don't want the obstructions. If we cater to those few that have complained, than I fear, larger ramifications for our children in the future. I say NO to this ordnance!!!
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